January 15 2003 

Greetings unto Mistress Elena de Vexin, Dragon; THL Paul Wickenden of Thanet, Rouge Scarpe; and the commenting members of the Midrealm College of Heralds; from Lady Angharad Rhos Tewdwr of Pembroke, Escutcheon. 

 

Here are the December 2002 submissions for your consideration and commentary. All submissions will allow major and minor changes unless otherwise noted. All commentary should be sent to the Rouge Scarpe Herald, THL Paul Wickenden of Thanet, early enough to arrive by February 25, 2003, with copies to Dragon and me.  

1)Aesa the Fierce. (F) New Name and Device. Vert, within an annulet a wagon argent.

(Barony of the Flame)

Client supplied no documentation. She wishes a name authentic for 9^th century Norway, cares most about sound and will NOT accept MAJOR changes. She also will not allow the creation of a holding name for the associated device. 

2) Andrew Bend. (M) New Name and Device. Sable,a bend argent.

(Cleftlands)

[Bend] found in “Faire Names for English Folk: Late Sixteenth Century English Names” by Chris Laning at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/surnames.html#list

[Andrew] found in “Masculine Given Names in Chesham, 1538-1600/1” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan found at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/chesham/chesham-masculine.html

Client cares most about language/culture and specifically states that he will accept any changes. 

3) Balian de Brionne. (M) Device Change. Azure, three clarions argent.

(Davison, MI)

{Name reg: 6/85}

Missive from client:

I desire to change my arms from Per pale argent and azure, three clarions counterchanged (7/93) to Azure, three clarions argent, for obvious reasons. When I registered the current device, I assumed that there was conflict with Per chevron azure and argent, three clarions counterchanged (Robin Clarian, 6/84) because of X.4.d. As I was investigating the question of finding the registrant to seek permission to conflict, Brigantia was kind enough to let me know that he was not sure there was a conflict. He appears to be correct and I cite the following two precedents:

“After much thought and discussion, it has been decided, for purposes of X.4.d, e and h of the Rules of Submission, that the bottommost of three charges, either on the field alone or arroundan ordinary, is defined as one-half of the group…multiple changes to the basemost of three charges under this definition will be granted a maximum of one CVD.” (CL 9/6/90 p.2).

(Daud 1)

“The subtext of Rfs X.4.d is revised in part to update the example given therein (“Or, three bulls’ heads gules” differs from “Or, two bulls’ heads sable and another gules”, but not from “Or, two bulls’ heads gules and another sable”) to reflect precedent set in the September 6, 1990 Cover Letter to the effect that tincture, type, and posture changes to the basemost of three charges arranged two and one are worth a CD, though at most one CD can be obtained even for multiple changes to this charge. As a consequence, and following Palimpsests’ wording, such an example is revised to read:

Or, in pale three bulls’ heads gules differs from Or, in pale a bull’s head gules between two more sable, but not from Or, in pale a bull’s head sable between two more gules. [12b/93c]

(Daud 2.1) 

I therefore urge the College to consider that there are two clear differences between the proposed arms and those of Robin Clarian: one for the field and one for the change in tincture to at least half (in this instance the bottommost of three charges) of the charges.” 

Client wishes to release his current device if this passes and also, to release his badge, (Fieldless) On a rose azure a bee Or. 

 

4) Brise Sanguin. (F) New Name and Device. Gules, a fleur-de-lys argent within a bordure argent goutty de sang.

(Tirnewydd)

[Brise] is a female given name listed s,n. “Brise la bèle” in “An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris” by Lord Colm Dubh found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html

[Sanguin] appears in “French Names from Paris, 1423” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael at http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/paris1423surnames.htm and also in “French Names from Paris, 1438” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael at http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/paris1438surnames.htm 

Client cares most about sound and does not require the name to be authentic, wishing at least a vague cultural connection to France in general and Normandy in particular sometime during the Hundred Years War between France and England. Client will NOT allow MAJOR changes. 

 

5) Cecilia Fiametta Delcanto. (F) Name and Device Resubmission. Gules, a squirrel between three bezants.

(Park Forest, IL)

[Cecilia] found in Withycombe p 30.

[Fiametta] found in “Italian Renaissance Names” by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoore Vale at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/rhian/italian.html dated circa 14th-15th century.

[Delcanto] found in “Florentine Renaissance Resources:Online Catasto of 1427” at http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/catasto/overview.html  

Name returned by Rouge Scarpe 9/02 because of a lack of documentation for [Delcanto]. Client has supplied this. Device was returned same letter for conflict. She has changed the field tincture (from azure to gules) and changed from plates to bezants. 

 

6) Cúil Choluim, Shire of . Device Resubmission. Purpure, on a chevron between three columbines Or, three laurel wreathes vert.

(Columbus, IN)

{Name reg: 7/02?}

Previous device submission returned because the columbines were drawn ‘proper’ and the amount of vert exceeded the amount of Or thus leading to a color on color. The clients have redrawn the columbines all Or clearing this problem. Petition of Support included.

[ Esc: I know the name was bounced on a technical point owing to a miscommunication (not the fault of the clients)and I believe this was corrected via phone and the name corrected and passed, but I am unsure what date was assigned for this correction.] 

7) Douglas of Ravenslake. (M) New Name and Device. Quarterly gules and vert, a bull statant Or.

(Ravenslake)

Client has basically created his own holding name (and wishes it to serve as such) as he wants his device registered but is still researching his persona. Douglas is his legal name. 

8) Elynor Grey. (F) New Name and Device. Quarterly purpure and vert, a lion dormant erminois.

(Canton, MI)

[Elynor] dated to 1566 found in an index of “Female Given Names” found in the Ashmolean Museum’s brass rubbing collection at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/women.html

[Grey] dated to 1415 also found amongst the brasses at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/lastnameEH.html. Client wishes a 16^th century name.  

9) Irial Féasruadh ó hIarnáin. (M) Device Change. Lozengy Or and argent, a bear salient gules.

(Bloomington, IN)

{Name reg:11/00}

10) Mailse of Glencoe. (F) Name Resubmission.

(Rimsholt)

[Mailse] found in “Irish Names & Surnames”, Rev. Patrick Woulfe, p.212, not dated.

[Glencoe] found in “Clan Donald” by Donald J. Mac Donald, pp. 195-226, dated circa late 13^th century.

Client indicated that her submission was returned 6/02 but I can find no record of it, who returned it, or for what reason. Client is interested in having an Irish first name with a Scottish placename.  

11) Michael McCay. (M) New Device. Per chevron throughout vert and argent, two falcons regardant addorsed argent and a rapier sable.

(Bloomfield Hills, MI)

{Name reg: 12/01} 

 

In Service to the Dream,

Angharad Rhos Tewdwr of Pembroke, OW 

Anne Krone
3846 S Wayne Dr.
La Porte IN 46350
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Dragon:

Rouge Scarpe:

Paul Wickenden of Thanet
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